I should probably expand this topic, as it is quite annoying and awful to me.

http://thoseshirts.com/noche.html

A wish-wash would have ended the Civil War rather than sustain the DESTRUCTION in the press and public opinion Lincoln took for staying in the war after more than 3/4 of the Union residents wanted an end at any cost.

Lincoln, for his many faults, was a resolute and strong leader. Like Bush.

I agree that it is irrelevant and pointless to argue about the motives for the war now; however, I want the troops out as soon as possible. However, this does not mean I want them out NOW; I mean that they should be brought back slowly after Iraq is established as its own state so that there is no more chaos and so they can be successful and content as a people. My issue is with how we are going about doing such (“helping” them establish themselves). Perhaps its my staunch anti-war belief, but I really don’t think staying in Vietnam longer would have solved anything.

It’s a pointless venture now. We should be moving towards calling it a reconstruction effort, and yes, we do need to clean up our mess. But when is this about us? What if Iraq does not want a democracy like the United States? What if we’ve got a whole different idea of what they want? What if we’re off? The benefits for the United States should not matter at this point; we should be looking out for Iraq right now. Alliances will come with time if we aren’t greedy or overbearing. Remember that their culture is different from ours, and that liberty and freedom aren’t always defined as we define them.

Sorry, but I think Lincoln was a hypocritical, wishy washy individual who probably deserved his low approval ratings. Think about the way he handled slavery; by telling each specific group (North, South, border states) what they wanted to hear, he stayed in power in the Union. Freed slaves only in the Southern states until after the war in order to appease the border states. How ethical, really.
Truman was hated a lot during the Korean “conflict” [not an actual war because Congress did not declare war - it was an excecutive command] because he sent troops into Korea, he had to take over steel mills in order to prevent workers from striking [Congress had passed the Taft-Hartley Act, causing complications with unions, strikes, etc.]. This pissed off the steel mill owners, and a lot of old time propaganda helped with that. I guess the propaganda deal can be seen today also (after all, all news is subjective).

We’ll see what happens next; voting to block a democratic resolution this week (I think) might shake things up.

In addition to the psychological effects, one marijuana joint contains all the tar, C02, etc in a half pack of cigarettes as well as some nicotine.